Wednesday, February 09, 2011

AERO INDIA: New Model Of India's 5th Gen Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft


Photos by Shiv Aroor

31 comments :

Anurag said...

Hey its looking nice,but need to see a top view also......

forallofus said...

even though it looks like raptor at 1st sight, its really not.

the frontal section(image 3)clearly shows, the air intakes are wide as in pak-fa to accomodate more weapons, whereas in raptor both the air intakes almost touch each other at the bottom of the fuselage.

i would estimate a internal weapons bay capacity to 4ton atleast. anything less then 3ton, will be really disappointing.

Arvind T.M. said...

@ani. You are right in many ways.Maybe India should invite private military contractors to speed up the R & D process. Just look at Boeing and Lockheed Martin in the USA.DRDO just doesn`t have the financial or human resource muscle to single handedly develop 4th gen fighters

Anonymous said...

Whether air intake has any thing to do with its sleth capability?

BALRAM said...

Wow...truly a superb beauty. Cant wait to hear more news about AMCA.

Anonymous said...

Why do I feel it has retained the front fuselage from the LCA.

Neat yes!

BALRAM said...

Shiv, post also top and back nozzle stills if you can...

Anonymous said...

hahaha this is all DODO is good at, making models for display. Give it to us at BR and we can make a great design in a matter of a year or 2. Stupid DODOs

Aditya said...

Wow, that's changed a lot, hasn't it?
They've redesigned the wing, though now it looks more like a 4th generation flanker wing than the swept-back trapezoidal wings of the American/Russian designs.
Canopy has the same issue... Almost like they've borrowed it from an LCA wind-tunnel model.
But it's much sleeker now: looks like they've been very observant about the lines on the F-22, and avoided the central bulk of the F-35. Over all, it reminds me of the Mitsubishi ATD-X more than any other 5th gen design.

Mirza said...

Well looking at this design i think we may expect TD air craft on time.

but i doubt about IAF latest
requirement total stealth MCA.

Raman Kumar Singh said...

I would't say its full stealthy. But it looks awesome. Hope the fine one is better then this and better in stealth.

Anonymous said...

Chines stalth plane in the sky but INDIA HAVY LCA on THE table very loose work

Anonymous said...

could have clicked better pictures dude

Anonymous said...

anon@10:25 PM

if you could have, then why didnt you? you RATshakers come here and whine like morons. Take pics and send it to Shiv, I'm sure he wouldnt mind putting them up. If you cant, shut it and accept whats on here without pissing from your mouth.

Anonymous said...

gotta see top view its the most important view.

Raman Kumar Singh said...

@dude

I wouldn't go with your comments of clicking better picture then SHIV. Why don't you go and do it and show us your qualities.

This guy is trying his best to keep us posted. Please do not put a question on Shiv's effort.

Anonymous said...

Hey Shiv if you get another chance to visit the display could you take a picture of the top view? Thanks

Anonymous said...

Killer looks!! AMCA is the first stealth aircraft in the 20 Ton category and They have done a lot of redesigning over the last AI's Wind tunnel model...The canopy now truly looks like a 5th Gen one..The structure is sleeker and hopefully stealthier than the wind tunnel model..I just hope they deliver their best and deliver it on time so that mass production can begin from 2018-2020..We need at least 500 of these birds in our Airforce by 2030...India has got to shed the sheath of false modesty and race for the stars..This is our time..

Best of Luck DRDO and HAL

PS: Shivji, as many others, I too would like to have a dorsal view of the bird..

Anonymous said...

Just one question ... how are you guys making a blanket statement that this is not going to be stealthy?

As far I see this plane is perfectly edgematched. There are only
1. Right leading edge (right air intake, right main wing leading edge, elevator leading edge, right elevator inner trailing edge, vertical stabilizer leading edge)
2. Right trailing edges (main wing and elevator outside trailing edge and vertical stabilizer trailing edge)
3. Wingtip edges (main wing inside delta leading edge, main wing main tip, elevator wing tip and vertical stabilizer wing tip)
4,5,6. Ditto for left side.

So there are just 6 edges!! Compare this with the J-20

The elevators are neatly tucked behind the wing.

The vertical stabilizers are alligned with the underbelly in the vertical plane.

The bottom is flat and the wing and the upper fuselage is beautifully blended giving very low side RCS too.

I can't see why it is not more stealthy than the J-20 and as stealthy as the f-22 when it comes to body shaping.

Indranil Roy

Anonymous said...

i'm hoping this AMCA will be in service by 2020 anything beyond would be heartbreaking they should learn there mistakes from the LCA program and this time not have any cost overruns or delays

it looks like a little bigger than the F-35 and just a bit smaller than the PAKFA

Sourabh said...

AMCA is a great thinking. this aircraft can eliminate the need of f35 in indian airforce. but for doing that I think HAL and ADA should invite some other foreign company to be partner in project. In my opinion Dassault aviation would be best choice, since France and India has agreed go beyond buyer seller relationship. French would also be thinking of a fifth generation fighter and they are involved in f35 JSF project. Developing AMCA with them will add lot of better features avionics, radar ( India can utilize this as opportunity do develop a very good radar in partnership, which can solve problem of radar development for future fighters), improvement in airframe if required, sharing of production cost and above all AMCA can be developed to be a very modern state of art metal bird to go neck to neck with f35 in global arms race.

Anonymous said...

Since when did MCA become 5th generation.

Anonymous said...

IAF is a fickle customer. ADA should design AMCA for the IN. Better to have a smaller serious client than a whimsical larger client to prove your product. I am quite sure it will be easier to obtain export orders once IN starts using the aircraft. IAF can keep scouring the international markets forever.

Rohit said...

Hey Its Superb..... Itz jus as the Plane used in the SWAT-KATS cartoon show.....Really marvellous...

Anonymous said...

ADA should think differently for India's first stealth plane. Why not a delta winged tailless twin engined stealth plane. There will be fewer edges to return radar signals. Keep the Indian navy interested, IAF is unreliable.

Anonymous said...

i think hal/nal need to release TEJAS and SARAS and DHRUV-2 before they even construct any prototype of MCA

vishnu.s.nair said...

I think it will be a smaller form of 5th generation fighter.India haven't experience in such a fighter,and also we first complete the KAVERI engine project.

sntata said...

Wow! What a beauty! Alas! I am 70 yrs old and will never see it fly.

Anonymous said...

The overall design might be OK for a stealth plane, but ADA should make it ultra low observable. Compromises will lead to issues later with the problematic 'customer'.

Anonymous said...

When this 5th generation aircraft will be brought into service? My guess is not earlier than 2025 by that time other countries would be using 7 th generation fighter aircraft! god help us all!

Anonymous said...

Stealthy ??
It is anything but stealthy.
Its 4th genration twin engined aircraft model.

To those who are expecting it to be in production run by 2018????
you need a life.

They havent got LCA MK1 on proper production. MK2 protoype is nowhere ready. heck they still have to integrate F-414 to the LCA and do a hell lot of testing.
getting LCA MK-2 in production in itself will be an achievement. AMCA is a far cry