Tuesday, February 22, 2011

More On Eurofighter's Naval Typhoon

More here. And my photos of the naval Typhoon model at Aero India 2011 here. Strange: Boeing, Dassault and Saab (the latter actually came out first with info about the Sea Gripen) being pretty low key on their offerings to the Indian Navy. They're all way too spent on the darn MMRCA. :P

13 comments :

MPatel said...

this is strange no european nation is even looking to use eurofighter on their carrier but poor indians will....these guys are only after hard earned indian rupees to fund their research...

Heberian said...

That last line sounds loaded ...

:)

Anonymous said...

For Navy i think F-35 is best choice (for IAC-2). Mig-29k and LCA Tejas Navy are enough for Virkamaditya and IAC-1

Anonymous said...

What about Astra ?? Would it take more time to be operational

Anonymous said...

Embraer unveiles new Indian AEW&C platform

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tnwgqOpv3g&feature=player_embedded

Anonymous said...

Hi everybody,

Are there conformal fuel tanks on the Naval Typhoon, or am I seeing things ?

@ MPatel. Only UK and France (among European nations) operate aircraft carriers, in the traditional sense. The British signed up to the Naval JSF long time ago, and the French use the Naval Rafale. So it is not surprising that the Typhoon has not been navalised yet.

Prasun K. Sengupta said...

It would appear that the navalised EF-2000 is the last desperate attempt by the Eurofighter consortium to match up to what Boeing BDAS has offered in the form of the F/A-18IN International Roadmap. While Boeing had offered the earlier F/A-18A/B to the Indian Navy way back in 1986, Saab had been invited in the mid-1990s to respond to a MoD-issued RFI for a navalised MRCA, meant for the IAC which at that time was still on the drawing boards. The F/A-18IN International Roadmap most certainly rankled all other M-MRCA competitors during AA 2011, as it is not just a paper proposal, but a certainty within established and defined financial parameters, something which no other M-MRCA contender has been able to match thus far.
Anon@12.57PM: Yes, those are CFTs and TVC nozzles.

Anonymous said...

UK does not want it Italy cannot use it Germany has no requirement for it so why is it being even thought about we will have MCA and N-LCA for use sufficent after the all it is still on paper design will conceptulized then fibracted then changes and so on wil take atleast 5 yrs for the first one to even fly. So no Thankyou bye bye

Anonymous said...

IAF should go for F18 International Roadmap and Navy should seriously invest in F35B.
Since India has a "no 1st use" policy. We must bolster our 2nd strike capabilities. In case of a future war, all our runways and airfields will be rendered useless by massive missile and aerial attacks. Once runways are destroyed, we will lose all control over the skies. In such a scenario we need few squadrons of VTOL a/cs.F35 fits the bill perfectly. It can land and take off from LPDs and quickly be deployed anywhere in the country. Nepal being under Chinese influence, our long border with Nepal is extremely vulnerable. Here the F35B can help defend the airspace from rough air bases.

Gautam said...

This whole RFI business is a joke. The Navy doesn't need three fighter types. There's no significant gap in capability between Eurofighter and MiG-29K aside from avoinics, and that can be easily remedied.

If they really want a third fighter so badly why don't they go for a capability they don't already have and buy the F-35?

Anonymous said...

Wow, does anyone learn anything. The F35s are failures. We know that because our RAF has tested them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxeU2oK-KRk

Now lets look at the facts. BAE are offering a fighter with TVN and CFT plus better avionics. This will make Eurofighter the most manueverable aircraft in the world.

By G777GUN

Gautam said...

"Wow, does anyone learn anything. The F35s are failures. We know that because our RAF has tested them."

And that's why your RAF has completely ignored the Eurofighter and is ordering these F-35s?

Anonymous said...

"And that's why your RAF has completely ignored the Eurofighter and is ordering these F-35s?"

GB have invested billions in the project to secure a fifth generation fighter jet. They would have lost so much from quitting the program

"IAF should go for F18 International Roadmap and Navy should seriously invest in F35B.
Since India has a "no 1st use" policy. We must bolster our 2nd strike capabilities. In case of a future war, all our runways and airfields will be rendered useless by massive missile and aerial attacks. Once runways are destroyed, we will lose all control over the skies. In such a scenario we need few squadrons of VTOL a/cs.F35 fits the bill perfectly. It can land and take off from LPDs and quickly be deployed anywhere in the country. Nepal being under Chinese influence, our long border with Nepal is extremely vulnerable. Here the F35B can help defend the airspace from rough air bases."

Why on earth would they go for two different systems? In that case it would be much better to choose a fighter different from the F-18. The F-18 is neither the best of the aircrafts, far from the cheapest and one of the oldest aircrafts in the competition. If they want a dual-fighter system, the land-based M-MRCA fighter have to be able to maintain air superiority as the HAL FGFA won't come in particularly large numbers. The Gripen NG, the EF and the Rafale can ensure that. The Gripen is the more economic one, yet have similar if not better capabilities than the others, and the Rafale would be the one best suited for naval operations. The F-35 would be FAR to costly for the Indian Navy and wouldn't be a game-changer either since the threats would be from China, Pakistan and countries with Sukhois. They really don't need two 5th gen fighters which are both costly. They need one efficient multi-roll which can be used over sea and land as a complement to the Air Superiority HAL FGFA.