tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post1846067325804065667..comments2023-10-11T17:09:54.975+05:30Comments on LIVEFIST: A Big Fat MMRCA UpdateShiv Aroorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03510476258643893433noreply@blogger.comBlogger52125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-49114306465043792682011-05-07T13:12:19.561+05:302011-05-07T13:12:19.561+05:30So the Chief sat in front of all of you and lied t...So the Chief sat in front of all of you and lied through his teeth? Why?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-83177580388955340892011-02-25T15:59:38.313+05:302011-02-25T15:59:38.313+05:30well guys congrats for your great work.our scienti...well guys congrats for your great work.our scientists can build new aircrafts and we are developing technologie which no country can acquire..well india have to go in the mrca deal without any international politics invoved.i think eurofighter is much better than other aircrafts as it is 405 generation fighter as it can attack multiple targets at a time. thinkAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-6107786511940206612010-08-17T03:14:52.487+05:302010-08-17T03:14:52.487+05:30The reasons to choose the SAAB Gripen 39IN/NG;
1. ...The reasons to choose the SAAB Gripen 39IN/NG;<br />1. IAF will have +262 SU30MKI, highly capable twin engined fighter air craft.<br />2.IAF is replacing the small one engined flying coffins, i.e. MiG-21<br />3. For the future IAF is planning the next generation 5/6 generation fighter air craft in collaboration with the Russians. <br /><br />What the IAF needs now and for the forseeable future is:<br />A) a small, cheap, capable multi role/swingrole top of the line AC that do not drain the IAF coffins.<br />A plane with capabilities that in larger numbers will intimidate and dominate any air force threat, in co-operation with the IAF SU-30MKI. There is only 1 fighter air craft that fills this specification; the SAAB Gripen 39NG/IN!<br />B) The contender should be able to bring enough technique to India to secure future indiginous development of fighter air craft. No bidder exept SAAB Gripen International does propose that: The others bring wings and screwdrivers and bolts and call that ToT. <br />If this in not decided by most bribes I expect the Gripen 39IN to succeed!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-19096194196147175382010-08-15T21:15:44.881+05:302010-08-15T21:15:44.881+05:30Sir, the engine of the Gripen is a RM-12 made by V...Sir, the engine of the Gripen is a RM-12 made by Volvo, its an american Engine that has been totally modified and are superior in every aspect of the American counterpar// Swedish ArmyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-39433495949862184702010-08-14T07:27:36.976+05:302010-08-14T07:27:36.976+05:30GOOD GAME IS ON HERE JUST HAVE TO KNOW WHOS PLAYIN...GOOD GAME IS ON HERE JUST HAVE TO KNOW WHOS PLAYING ITRATnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-73504997082870315102010-08-14T03:34:57.249+05:302010-08-14T03:34:57.249+05:30The 'rules' allow any of the contenders to...The 'rules' allow any of the contenders to be chosen.<br /><br />This is just how the politicians want it. the decision now firmly rests in the political advantages that each of the bidders offer.JWCooknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-56605275229765723532010-08-13T20:15:45.161+05:302010-08-13T20:15:45.161+05:30It is going to be a fight between the eurocanards....It is going to be a fight between the eurocanards.<br /><br />If the Gripen can perform all the 600 odd tasks, the other two more expensive birds are in trouble.<br /><br />If the IAF thinks that the Gripen is too much like the LCA then the Gripen is in trouble. An indication is the recent IAF order for 20 more mark 1 LCAs. Perhaps the IAF realized that what they were extensively testing on the Gripen was already being tested on the LCA.<br /><br />That makes the two EF and Rafale left in the front, with EF having the lead because of its offer of wide TOT, making india a partner in EADS EF and scope for future development. The Rafale loses out becasue of its absence of any sales, and the generally expensive french avionics and weaponry.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-62064713041181134302010-08-13T18:33:03.445+05:302010-08-13T18:33:03.445+05:30Before making any comments here,I request everyone...Before making any comments here,I request everyone reading this to click on this link : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMRCA#Comparison_of_the_competing_aircraft <br />And,the SAAB Gripen is a totally idiotic plane,why does everyone like it? It runs on an AMERICAN engine.MiG Fannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-79127880613548215522010-08-13T17:33:44.151+05:302010-08-13T17:33:44.151+05:30"The Indian Air Force won't choose a twin..."The Indian Air Force won't choose a twin-engine aircraft in the MMRCA, if a single-engine aircraft can "do the job", "<br /><br />If a single engine fighter could do the job of twin-enginned fighter then why do nations develop twin-enginned fighters ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-69832814293894408142010-08-13T15:57:34.036+05:302010-08-13T15:57:34.036+05:30the best news and looking serious, it is the infor...the best news and looking serious, it is the information comming from chanel TIMENOW TV,<br />they are linked with the military/politic world.<br />I give credit because that match with many rumors coming out from different source. <br /><br />MAG REPORT date from july, it seem <br />prepared long time a go before knowing the final report, i don t give credit et doesn t mach with unoffical news.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-61392923621926200172010-08-13T14:46:55.659+05:302010-08-13T14:46:55.659+05:30Finally LM got what it wanted. who else could be c...Finally LM got what it wanted. who else could be cheapest western fighter? RIP TejasAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-49938204646326098152010-08-13T12:33:33.886+05:302010-08-13T12:33:33.886+05:30Good post. Lucid. Measured. Good bell weather for ...Good post. Lucid. Measured. Good bell weather for future discussions. And doesnt count anyone in or anyone out. Excellent.Gogolnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-2939758768154859822010-08-13T08:32:47.716+05:302010-08-13T08:32:47.716+05:30Every thing is being guessed, discussed,impressed ...Every thing is being guessed, discussed,impressed and finally fabricated by the participants in various blogs over internet. The points being made, clearly and strongly, reflect organisational parochial interest of innumerable subset of MoD within and out side players. Public as always remains gullible and uninformed.<br /><br />While the fliers ardumstruck and dreaming about mounting various flying beauties as per their knowledge and choices, prides and prejudices, other subsets are not behind.<br /><br />DRDO people see this as an end of their egoistic and air castle but well paying Empire which they only dream about but never built solidly through achievement.<br /><br />Keeping aside the issues involved, PSU guys are crying foul just to protect their Empires. They go shrill to the point of potraying as if HAL is India and India is HAL. Any thing the screw farts gold.<br /><br />Incentive journalists have their strange explanation. Vendors are ready to do any thing.<br /><br />It is all mist, mist and strange confusing mist.<br /><br />This the ways of MoD which unfortunately is IDAS, CCS and IAS fuedalistic fiefdom rather than being an institution. They promote non transperency, skullduggery, backstabing, Corruption, infighting, promtionalism rather then professionalism. In Independant India, it has developed as a coercive negetive instrument rather than well structured and meaningful Institution. A few there who consider it as their Empire promote division and conflits rather than unision and synergy. A non functional dark hole, is the best way to describe it.<br /><br />Rather than doing it after an RTI, why do not they display the findings on their web site? If honesty and transperency is paramount for Hon. RM's mind, he should put up IAF findings on the MoD web page !<br /><br />Kahani khatam!<br /><br />Well this blog would not exist if such a thing happens. Not that I wish ill to the blog !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-43992303085910066122010-08-13T02:47:33.699+05:302010-08-13T02:47:33.699+05:30Now it went to the great Indian babus. so wait for...<b>Now it went to the great Indian babus. so wait for another five years. </b>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-81350633469649246522010-08-13T00:39:34.568+05:302010-08-13T00:39:34.568+05:30Anonymous@10:45 pm - "IAF has made sure that,...Anonymous@10:45 pm - "IAF has made sure that, they have all options open for corruption. Definitely field trials have been used to extract the maximum bribe from every contender!!!"<br /><br />Your kind would cast a doubt on their own mothers. The dumb bastard that you are, it makes little sense tossing more epithets at you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-74123753924033457432010-08-13T00:37:51.503+05:302010-08-13T00:37:51.503+05:30"The Leh trials were the ones that half the a..."The Leh trials were the ones that half the aircraft failed.<br />F-18, F-16, and AFAIK Rafale had trouble taking off in the high altitudes."<br /><br />100% untrue regarding the Rafale who was the one which performed the best at Leh ,even taking off at full load without even needing the whole distance...<br />Info given by the IAF Commander to Brazil FAB chief during a recent visit in Brasilia.Thierrynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-1289881452138712452010-08-12T23:27:47.186+05:302010-08-12T23:27:47.186+05:30Being the world's 4th largest air force, the I...Being the world's 4th largest air force, the Iaf is entirely unprofessional. The brazilian tender was far better in the sense that they were able to outmanuver their own president french dikta to keep the competition still open. i hope iaf gets f***ed up, big time. This would be bae hawk episode 2. Fortunately atleast there is Tejas to hold fort, hope iaf doesn't scuttle it like ajeet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-49330600311321833582010-08-12T22:53:32.577+05:302010-08-12T22:53:32.577+05:30Gripen is a good all round fighter, its very agile...Gripen is a good all round fighter, its very agile and is worth its price.<br /><br />Let's hope it wins.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-70481647535106701012010-08-12T22:45:13.512+05:302010-08-12T22:45:13.512+05:30IAF has made sure that, they have all options open...IAF has made sure that, they have all options open for corruption. Definitely field trials have been used to extract the maximum bribe from every contender!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-61708948073046250442010-08-12T22:43:06.612+05:302010-08-12T22:43:06.612+05:30The Leh trials were the ones that half the aircraf...The Leh trials were the ones that half the aircraft failed.<br />F-18, F-16, and AFAIK Rafale had trouble taking off in the high altitudes.<br />While the JAS Gripen, EF Typhoon, and Mig-35 performed well.<br /><br />JAS Gripen is the cheapest plane around, followed by the Mig-35.<br /><br />It seems the toss up is between the JAS Gripen and EF Typhoon. The american birds are out because Indian will NOT sign CISMOA. The russian bird is out because its Russian, and upgrades to the Su-30 MKI and the T-50 will have all these techs coming to India via TOT. The french have been pacified by the Jatipur Areva N plants and the Mirage-2000 upgrades, and the possibility of Indian buying the UAE mirage-2000-9s and the necessary weaponry for them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-42740468397004400852010-08-12T21:40:45.042+05:302010-08-12T21:40:45.042+05:30@joydeep ghosh
The Typhoon is more expensive than...@joydeep ghosh<br /><br />The Typhoon is more expensive than the Rafale. So it will be the first to be eliminate if the price is the key point.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-35374233555372729072010-08-12T21:18:22.098+05:302010-08-12T21:18:22.098+05:30There is another version in the Air... Tahalka...
...There is another version in the Air... Tahalka...<br /><br />Wait for it...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-63499630799438965832010-08-12T20:33:30.982+05:302010-08-12T20:33:30.982+05:30@anon 8:00
gripen is a joke nobody wants to baby ...@anon 8:00 <br />gripen is a joke nobody wants to baby sit this orphan for the swedes<br />saab communication is for fanboys, in the real world saab is nothing for airforces and governmentAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-81421693935871992102010-08-12T20:31:22.629+05:302010-08-12T20:31:22.629+05:30Now IMO,
* IAF is very smart, they have carried o...Now IMO,<br /><br />* IAF is very smart, they have carried out the trials, brifed every vendor on the findinds of the trial and submitted its Stastical report to MoD.<br /><br />* They have come clean on the subject .. Wow. No one can raise thier fingers in this vendor driven journalistic invironment.<br /><br />* They have put MoD babus in quandery to make the "purchase decision". Let me see how do they say IAF to do retendering? Retrial?<br /><br />* IAF has left "Strategic considerations" for the Babus and Mr Antony. Either they will make a good decision or face the flake.<br /><br />What IAF would be saying is pertinently correct " out of six may be four meet our requirement", Hamko Jo dena hai wo de do, Lekin de do"..<br /><br />Do not spoil the show like MoD did it for 155mm guns. Look at the tamsha they did? They moved CBI and DRDO to scuttle the project? Army should have understood the game the moment CBI moved in..<br /><br />Army to learn something.. The biggest lesson is that if you want equipment, give no preferences so that MoD profits are maximised.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-36666491628635406022010-08-12T20:26:24.907+05:302010-08-12T20:26:24.907+05:30Excellent piece of info. Interesting to see how th...Excellent piece of info. Interesting to see how the US reacts to the speculations about both of its fighters being left out.Manish Kumarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15314410026225202842noreply@blogger.com