tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post5558441759484453053..comments2023-10-11T17:09:54.975+05:30Comments on LIVEFIST: 2008: One bad year...Shiv Aroorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03510476258643893433noreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-12824146382105650042009-01-05T17:27:00.000+05:302009-01-05T17:27:00.000+05:30Please see the coverage of the operations being ca...Please see the coverage of the operations being carried out by the army in Poonch- Mendhar. While it is the Army troops that are fighting and getting killed there, the media keeps flashing a police officer who is a spectator at the road head. This footage can now be shown to mean that the police too does the same job as the army and in the next pay commission the fauj can be brought down a notch further.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-68138715144885262862009-01-04T21:39:00.000+05:302009-01-04T21:39:00.000+05:30Anon@933 If you find Faujis talking of repeat of 1...Anon@933<BR/> If you find Faujis talking of repeat of 1857 dont give them sermons but use your brain and go into the reasons. Ask your AF friends or better still join the Army better still infantry and have some fun. If you have a son motivate him to join Infantry and shed his blood for the nation. But you would not do that . He will follow your path as you followed your fathers safe path and now you give sermons to the Foujis asking them tho behave and what not.And thanks a lot for telling the faujis that this is India and not Pakistan. We did not know it. And if things go on like this and friend like you wiht MBA degrees keep giving us Bhashan it will indeed be pakistan with the Taliban at the India gate and inside the Parliament.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-37227408400239373682009-01-04T21:23:00.000+05:302009-01-04T21:23:00.000+05:30With this kind of maltreatment and insult of the d...With this kind of maltreatment and insult of the defence forces I do not give this stupid nation of Baboos more than 20 years. East will be eaten away by Bangadesh and the Talibans will be at India Gate and inside the Indian Parliament. The Baboos will be not effected. They will become servants of the Taliban our masses will enjoy the rape and plunder which they have been missing since emergence of the Indian Army. The Indian genes will be further forcibly enriched and we will proudly record in our history that one more aggressor in Indian history has been 'assimilate' in our culture. And it wil go on. Indian Army which is an abration in this gutter called Indian society will vanish without a trace. Jai HindAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-72713707129629328732009-01-03T21:33:00.000+05:302009-01-03T21:33:00.000+05:30Hi Am a civilian (for a change here). I am ''also'...Hi <BR/>Am a civilian (for a change here). I am ''also'' patriotic - contribute to nation economically. Am a little disappointed by the vitriol being poured here by the Armed forces personnel. <BR/>I have friends in AFs.. very dear friends from school.. I could never imagine them talking about 1857 repeats and as Lt Col VK Sharma said - be glad about killing of elite in the country... <BR/><BR/>No I believe them to be better men.. And they are..<BR/><BR/>Sharma sir.. what is elite? I go to 5 stars all the time. I am not an elite. My father is was a govt servant (retired). Finished his engineering through loan. I did my MBA through loan. If I have an earning capacity, it is through my hard work and enterprise. <BR/>I wont have people like you branding me elite just because I happen go to some hotels. I know where I come from , my roots are firmly grounded in middle class India. Last thing I want is some dissatisfied armymen telling me what I am and what I am supposed to do and how I am so dispensable.<BR/>I have a lot of respect for Armed forces. Please dont make me lose it. <BR/>This is India, not Pakistan.... Period. Behave and talk like it<BR/><BR/>Was in Rajasthan for last two weeks.. realized that rajput bravery is more of a myth, they sold out to Mughals first and brits later. That is why they still retain their palaces and splendor!!. Have no respect for them any more.. <BR/>Message: Ethics over material things... It matters. You have to earn respect, cant demand it.. <BR/><BR/>Cheerio!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-59160541955380183672008-12-30T10:14:00.000+05:302008-12-30T10:14:00.000+05:30Amusing to read some ill-advised and researched op...Amusing to read some ill-advised and researched opinion by Shishir Gupta but then that is what sells papers and earns TRPs.<BR/><BR/>Corrupt politicians, bureaucrats and policemen are passe - the flavour of the season is painting the Armed Forces with a tainted brush in the hope something sticks.<BR/><BR/>But emotions are not the requirement of the day. The Armed forces - serving and Veterans - need some inspired leadership that will channelise the angst and the energy to achieving objectives.<BR/><BR/>Maybe the retired Lt Gens should also undertake fasts (and miss their daily chhotas) for a few days.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-1915815440903537202008-12-29T16:49:00.000+05:302008-12-29T16:49:00.000+05:30Haha lots of grumpy uncivil servants out here, res...Haha lots of grumpy uncivil servants out here, resenting the fact that they havent silenced all the media.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-51367507786840949112008-12-29T15:15:00.000+05:302008-12-29T15:15:00.000+05:30Shiv has become famous in the services b'cos of pa...Shiv has become famous in the services b'cos of pay commission...he's become thier hero...even if he cant do anything for them (which is true), atleast he'll make some contacts and sources!!<BR/><BR/>Good strategy Shiv (are you a Pakistani by any chance. With a stubble you look like a Muslim)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-6109433592881348802008-12-29T14:42:00.000+05:302008-12-29T14:42:00.000+05:30Dear anonymous@941am ,we would leave if we could a...Dear anonymous@941am ,we would leave if we could and then you guys will be doing the crying, when the Pakis with their NFWP cousind will come and rape and murder your sisters and daughters and wives. we will still be able to defend ourselves, but you guys are going to just sit on your files and petition.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-6177643933551863422008-12-29T14:05:00.000+05:302008-12-29T14:05:00.000+05:30Hmm, notice that the notification has not come out...Hmm, notice that the notification has not come out. I am sure that the chiefs are seeing this through and making sure that no dud notification comes out of all this. <BR/><BR/>Agree fully that the Army chief should stop posting officers to mixed orgs. You are lowering the status of Army officers by accepting the unequal so called parity established by the IPS, at its face value. <BR/><BR/>If you keep posting Brigadiers with 30 years service under IGPs with 16 years service, you will get what you deserve. Service officers should refuse such postings immediately. <BR/><BR/>The army chief should be raising the concerns of his men at the appropriate levels, instead of waiting it out hoping that he will get a governership of some crummy state in 2 years, like the last illustrious chief did. <BR/><BR/>NO MORE POSTINGS UNDER THE IPS. <BR/><BR/>And the following parity to be demanded:<BR/><BR/>1. Lt-> JTS+Edge<BR/>Captain->STS+EDGE<BR/>MAJOR->JAG+EDGE<BR/>LTCOL->NFSG+EDGE<BR/>COL->JTSECY + EDGE<BR/>BRIG->ADDLSECY + EDGE<BR/>Maj Gen->HAG+ +EDGE<BR/>LtGEN-> SECY+EDGE<BR/>ARMYCDR-> CABSECY<BR/>CHIEFS->CABSECY+EDGEAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-29284011143322720762008-12-29T09:41:00.000+05:302008-12-29T09:41:00.000+05:30i,am a central govt employee, why do army people c...i,am a central govt employee, why do army people cry about less pay, no parrity e.t.c. I f they feel that they deserve more, let them leave and earn it outside, that is if they feel they are capable.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-29704184652656769212008-12-28T23:25:00.000+05:302008-12-28T23:25:00.000+05:302008 A Bad Year has not been so bad for the enemy ...2008 A Bad Year has not been so bad for the enemy within us. This enemy is far better protected, better armed - corruption. This enemy stares and dares us brazenly saying destroy me if you can. In my heart of hearts I know like millions of fellow Indians that this is one enmey that needs more than NSG commandos, or even the entire military might of the nation to eliminate,because most of the time, the foe is faceless. It is exactly this corrosive, all pervading corruption that has done the Armed Forces in. So what chance do a bunch of hunger strikers have against a phantom because they are trained to fight and external enemy. How can they fight their own mother?Navin Srivastavahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10683180932231988555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-64722976279806412872008-12-28T22:33:00.000+05:302008-12-28T22:33:00.000+05:30there should be at least 2 years mandatory militar...there should be at least 2 years mandatory military service for all ias and ips.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-34259367176394428512008-12-28T21:02:00.000+05:302008-12-28T21:02:00.000+05:30@ anony 2:13 PMdear friend, i agree with u that th...@ anony 2:13 PM<BR/>dear friend, i agree with u that these ias and ips lobbies are out to ruin armed forces. they have over a period of time elevated their status. but i feel its natural for any organisation/cadre/dept to make attempts for their growth and elevation of status. i feel they are justified in their efforts in improving their lifestyles. pl do not get me wrong, i am with u. what i want to indicate is, our senior lot has been sleeping. why did they not open up earlier. u and me both know... they are getting everything (perks and previleges) and they are not affected... thats why they did not do anything in past...this time lt gens were directly affected thats why so much of hue and cry is being made by chiefs...sorry only chief of naval staff...coas and cas still seem to be spunkless... i have my doubts once lt gen go into hag+ bracket, they may still chose to keep quiet... i have full doubts...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-9557454811097257202008-12-28T20:30:00.000+05:302008-12-28T20:30:00.000+05:30Dear Mr Aroor:The General officers who have been c...Dear Mr Aroor:<BR/>The General officers who have been circulating among the crowd and possibly holding the hands of those who are on fast unto death, what are THEY doing?<BR/>As former leaders of men, WHY HAVEN'T THEY THOUGHT IT FITTING IN THE INTERESTS OF ALL THAT THEY SHOULD BE LEADING BY EXAMPLE? Why are they not sitting along with the retired PBOR and FASTING UNTO DEATH?<BR/>If they expect that Indian Govt to retract its stand merely because some Ex-PBOR are about to commit suicide, they have another think coming.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-83178627608924725642008-12-28T19:04:00.000+05:302008-12-28T19:04:00.000+05:30May go through this with a critical mind but take ...May go through this with a critical mind but take home points on deterrance against terrorism:<BR/><BR/>[http://www.expressbuzz.com/edition/story.aspx?Title=A+strategy+to+deter+terrorism&artid=|Ci|Xx68mic=&SectionID=XVSZ2Fy6Gzo=&MainSectionID=oHSKVfNWYm0=&SectionName=m3GntEw72ik=&SEO=Subramanian%20Swamy,%20TALIBAN,%20WAR,%20PAKISTAN,%20ARMY,%20w]<BR/><BR/><BR/>Intelligence man Swamy has turned Strategician but when there were hundreds of terrorists in The Rear of Punch in surankot, he demafed the Army for undertaking operations SARPVINASH there lest some of the Intelligence (IB / RAW) bosses arse is fired up...<BR/><BR/>Strange standards some jouranists have like Sekhar Duppatta...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-2799693295072978822008-12-28T16:15:00.000+05:302008-12-28T16:15:00.000+05:30Want to know why its been a bad year, and why they...Want to know why its been a bad year, and why theyll only get worse?<BR/><BR/>http://www.hindustantimes.com/StoryPage ... corruption<BR/><BR/><BR/>Quote:<BR/><BR/>For babus, shoplifting worse than corruption<BR/><BR/><BR/>Aloke Tikku , Hindustan Times<BR/>Email Author<BR/>New Delhi, December 28, 2008<BR/>First Published: 00:45 IST(28/12/2008)<BR/><BR/><BR/>What is the yardstick for assessing the gravity of misdemeanours committed by bureaucrats? The Union Public Service Commission (UPSC) has made recommendations in individual cases, but the government hasn’t always followed its advice.<BR/><BR/>For instance, according to a report tabled in Parliament last week, a woman Indian Administrative Service (IAS) officer was retired for shoplifting at London department store Marks & Spencer a decade ago. But other officers accused of corrupt practices have got away with milder punishments.<BR/><BR/>The Uttar Pradesh cadre officer — part of an official delegation to Britain — was caught stealing two cashmere jumpers and a jacket. On the advice of a lawyer arranged by the high commission, she pleaded guilty and paid a fine of £150 (about Rs 11,000, as per current rates) imposed by the Magistrate Court of Marlborough Street.<BR/><BR/>The inquiry she faced back home exonerated her, but the red-faced government decided to make an example out of her.<BR/><BR/>While the UPSC agreed her conduct was unbecoming of an IAS officer, it said compulsory retirement was too harsh a punishment. It recommended that her salary be reduced in two stages over two years.<BR/><BR/>The government, however, told Parliament last week that the misconduct made her retention “untenable and the penalty advised by the UPSC did not meet the ends of justice”.<BR/><BR/>“Compulsory retirement seems too severe for a silly act like shoplifting,” said a senior government official, “especially when people who rob the exchequer go scot-free”.<BR/><BR/>Like this senior diplomat posted as head of the chancery in Riyadh who reemployed his India-based domestic help but misreported facts by claiming $5,086 (Rs 2.5 lakh, as per today’s rates) as the help’s salary from the government.<BR/><BR/>The UPSC recommended compulsory retirement “at the very least” plus recovery of $5,086. The government, however, declined to accept the advice since the officer’s disciplinary authority only initiated proceedings for a minor penalty.<BR/><BR/>And then there was this IAS officer in West Bengal, who was let off with a “notional penalty of 5 per cent cut in pension” after an inquiry found he “failed to maintain absolute integrity”, acquiring assets worth Rs 7 lakh in excess of his known income.<BR/><BR/>(Officers’ names withheld by UPSC in all cases)<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>Contrast the highly critical coverage of the armed forces recently, with the benevolent, almost indulgent tone of this article. So an IAS officer is caught trying to steal some bum and tum tights from Marks and Spencers... should we really go so far as to fire her, this paper asks. Isnt it unfair, when an IFS officer can steal 5800$ from the govt as salary for a servant?<BR/><BR/>And when we have quotations from potenteates suggesting that she should be let off, because shop-lifting is a "silly act", we see exactly how low standards have fallen in our civil services, and the reason for many of the ills in our governance setup today.<BR/><BR/>Maybe we shouldnt retire her. Maybe we should investigate what else she has stolen during her illustrious career. <BR/><BR/>At least other countries magistrates have the sense to convict thieves, even though in our country the stores owners would have just considered it a hafta.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-34491087769115938552008-12-28T14:13:00.000+05:302008-12-28T14:13:00.000+05:30Dear Friends,The issue of MPF and CPO need to be u...Dear Friends,<BR/><BR/>The issue of MPF and CPO need to be understood clearly. We have only two PMF in The country, that is Assam Rifles and The Coast Guard. When we say Par Military Force what is claerly implied is that the force is rolled, designed and organised to carry out Military Functions and is under operational command of the Military. Therefore, it has elements of military command and control integral to it. Pak has many PMF organisation like the erstwhile NLI which has been converted into regulars now. Their rangers are also commanded and controlled by the Army. Hence when ever one talks of the Parity between Armed Forces and PMF like AR or Coast Guard it is tolerable.<BR/><BR/>CPO in our country are a different and vastly dissimilar organizations having purely police roles. They are armed, equipped and structured to carry out "Danda Mar" colonial or Guarding Job, barely capable of protection of the VPs and VAs, that too is doubtful. Their training, attitudes and mindsets are not engaged towards military task except for the BSF that too very limited. One can not expect CISF or CRPF or RPF, the loudest claimer of Military status amongst them, to be of any military value. Hence, calling them as CPMF is not only a joke but also reflective of the desire of their MHA and IPS bosses to gain Military status. All CPO cadre of officers used to be class B status till recently. The cadre is auxiliary cadre to be commanded at higher level by the IPS. This is an entirely IPS domain forces propped up to claim equivalence to Army.<BR/><BR/>It is very unfortunate that in their blind and unchecked desire to dominate affairs, the IAS and IPS have tried to bring the status of Army to be considered at Par with auxillary CPO. Earlier at all pay Commissions, Defence officers equivalence was considered with IPS but this pay commission deliberately pushed down Defence to the equivalence of the CPOs as Shushma Nath’s happened to be an IPS officer. Not only that, CPO officers were deliberately brought to demand equivalence and Parity with Armed Forces. If any thing CPO officers shouls have demanded Parity and opportunities equivalent to IPS. Can any one ask my CPO friends why they are asking equivallance with a different Cadre and organization. First get similar opportunities within your organization and equate yourselves with IPS. Equating with Army is nothing but IPS Conspiracy added and helped by MOD zealots and KM Chandrasekhar.<BR/><BR/>Friends like BP Sing and others talked of "Eqility of Job and Pay". Whereas equility of Job is just their dream and imaginary why do not they insist on equity of Pay perks and promotions with IPS. Insisted on equality of Pay with Navy AirForce and Army simply is stupidy and nothing but insired consiracy. They do not see their equations with "security Gurds" when it comes to equal Jobs but spit towards the sky which is domain of Armed Forces. This was deliberately done to push down the Equivallance status of Armed forces officers by the IAS and IPS, particularly the duo of Ms Naths, one IAS and one IPS and all other highest Babus.<BR/><BR/><BR/>That imples Armed Forces virtually have been pushed down. IPS controlling investigative agencies like CID, Crime, IB, RAW etc have been co-opted by the IAS as second fiddle. They control vote rigging, spying on opponents, booking political opponents on false pretexts and policing. Therefore they are useful to the Politicians and the IAS. That is why grudgingly the status of second fiddle to them.<BR/><BR/>However, psychologically and apparently, the IPS always vied and copied the Army in uniform, ranks and status. So the story of all successive Pay Commissions is of IAS and IPS joining hands in pushing the Armed Forces down and down. The story of DIG or IG or DG gaining tin pot general status is nothing but the consequences of the combined assault on Armed Forces buy greedy, mentally insecure and power hungry IAS and IPS. They just can not stand the darling of the masses and country – the Armed Forces.<BR/><BR/>So much so that they have managed to push Defence Forces to the status of CPO, their Auxiliary Cadre. In the form of NSG, the IPS even have made Army Officers as their auxiliary Cadre. That is what their overall aim is.<BR/><BR/>How can Army Chief stand all this. It is simply unacceptable and illogical. National interest is not the sole prerogative of COAS. IPS have not moved on any appointments keeping national interests subordinate to their personal interest. That is a disgrace for Army officers. It is believed he has written a letter to MoD but that is not enough. No new officer should be posted to NSG unless this damage is rectified. Jointness of Command and interests is at the level of Ministry (secretary security) and not at functional levels.<BR/><BR/>This needs immediate attention or the COAS will be replaced soon by an IPS. They are inching on to that. This is the mental make up and character of the so called highest examination qualified elites of India.<BR/><BR/>Save yourselves from these durbar cronies so save India. That is the highest military responsibility and national interest<BR/><BR/>Jai HindAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-22381942391127088652008-12-28T12:43:00.000+05:302008-12-28T12:43:00.000+05:30I am glad that the LeT finally got its act togethe...I am glad that the LeT finally got its act together to kill the so called elite of this country in Mumbai,(at least some of them) having missed out the manmohans and sonias at the parliament. I now feel sorry for having needlessly and misguidedly killed LeT sods for the last 10 years and lost many good officers and men. But then we were living in a fools paradise that this pay commission rudely awoke me from. If the babu-neta want gladiators instead of soldiers, so be it. They are ready to pay good money for my blood but my living flesh is not good enough for parity, is it?<BR/>Well, I swear, for what its worth, in memory of all my comrades, never to kill or contribute to kill another militant again.<BR/>I wish they carry out another professional attack but spare the poor. It will truly gladden my heart if they can do so and kill only the babus and the netas.<BR/>Also, the NSG CO ought to be sacked for losing an officer and an NCO.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-91457664430206517662008-12-28T10:42:00.000+05:302008-12-28T10:42:00.000+05:30People are applauding Shiv as if he has written so...People are applauding Shiv as if he has written something extraordinary or new.<BR/><BR/>He doesn't know what's a Command or other formations, just tows the line of the armed forces, as thats the policy of Aroon Purie, to keep the faujis happy, so that no rejoinders come (as TV Today is stuck in a case because of Shiv's incorrect reporting).<BR/><BR/>So this is Shiv Aroor's reporting. He goes to jantar Mantar these days to cover protests, something he never did in Express. Is this what he has been reduced to. Shiv if you want to show solidarity then expose the black sheep in the government who are opposing the pay commission etc.<BR/><BR/>Do you have the guts or the sources ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-57750655792199178142008-12-27T22:55:00.000+05:302008-12-27T22:55:00.000+05:30Shiv,Congrats! on a well written piece. Unlike oth...Shiv,<BR/><BR/>Congrats! on a well written piece. Unlike other so called 'military specialists' you have at least recognised fauji are human too. Thanks and Good Luck for your future writings.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-57086391271003385832008-12-27T16:24:00.000+05:302008-12-27T16:24:00.000+05:30SHIV - A MASTERPIECEAS A JOURNALIST YOU HAVE BEEN ...<B> SHIV - A MASTERPIECE<BR/>AS A JOURNALIST YOU HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GRASP THE ESSENCE OF THE AGONY OF THE ARMED FORCES.<BR/><BR/>THERE IS ANOTHER BLOG WHERE A-NEVER- HEARD-BEFORE-JOURNALIST IS A SELF STYLED MILITARY EXPERT AND MISCHIEVOUSLY MOOTS ARMED FORCES REFORMS WITH THE AIM OF GETTING DISGRUNTLED VOICES TO AIR THEIR VIEWS. HE THEN USES THESE TO LAUNCH A VITRIOLIC TIRADE AGAINST THE ARMED FORCES.<BR/>HOPE THESE POLITICAL AND IAS JOKERS READ THIS AND AWAKEN BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE. </B>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-19347712604204019542008-12-27T15:46:00.000+05:302008-12-27T15:46:00.000+05:30Bad years are desirable once in a while!It shakes ...Bad years are desirable once in a while!<BR/><BR/>It shakes the organization and its people out of complacency.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-63111423321026616042008-12-27T15:07:00.000+05:302008-12-27T15:07:00.000+05:30Sishir Ghuptu and Sekhar Duppatta like MR SWAMY OF...Sishir Ghuptu and Sekhar Duppatta like MR SWAMY OF OUTLOOK appears to have undertaken fully apaid jobs of IPS and IAS. They themselves having not made it there( I can even quote their number of attempts and years) but are playing as cadremen from outside to satisfy failed desire. Who does not know how much of slush funds IPS have at their disposal to buy out lowly Guptas...<BR/><BR/>Have No sense of fair play. Who the hell does not know that defence forces do need authorisation. Only a first class megistrate can reaquision their help under law, not a Secretary or DGP or or an IPS clot. And that when armed Forces are requisition No clot is the boss around to control the situation but only the Forces commander...Change laws but do not ask Forces do illegal things.<BR/><BR/>If the Countries self proclaiming elites, reporters and editors do not know this much , they have no right to undertake paid barking...<BR/><BR/>Poor haunking it is...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-34850231802041185602008-12-27T14:28:00.000+05:302008-12-27T14:28:00.000+05:30@Dev1857 was first war of Independence and not Mut...@Dev<BR/><BR/>1857 was first war of Independence and not Mutiny..... Clear your facts...and perceptions..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-14630583842815649182008-12-27T14:19:00.000+05:302008-12-27T14:19:00.000+05:30@DevIrrespective of your misplaced spirit..the sys...@Dev<BR/><BR/>Irrespective of your misplaced spirit..the system is dissolving and not evolving..<BR/><BR/>There was a system at the time of independence..<BR/><BR/>Then it was badly changed in favor of Independant Babu as if Babus only got Independence and Armed Forces reamined Colonial. So Babus were made sureme and Armed Forces enslaved...<BR/><BR/>That process of enslaving continued and is continueing....<BR/><BR/>So you call it evolution????<BR/><BR/><BR/>What evolution ?. Are the Armed forces personnel second class citizens in India or mere gate keeprs of IAS Babus as many of them described Armed Forces.<BR/><BR/>The evolution is that thse Babus have evolved into extortinists, fund raisers, Contract looters, and bathroom keeprs of Politicians. Their nexus with corrupt politicians and Police is complete. That has gone into their head and The Clarks thinks he is king.<BR/><BR/>That is dessolution of system and not evolution....your pontification is in the air...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com