tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post5867434826679986238..comments2023-10-11T17:09:54.975+05:30Comments on LIVEFIST: IAF Grudgingly Accepts Tejas IOC, Wants 83 Mk-IIsShiv Aroorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03510476258643893433noreply@blogger.comBlogger66125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-36249353908659678572011-09-19T18:55:40.960+05:302011-09-19T18:55:40.960+05:30Don't worry guys. We people have waited for 25...Don't worry guys. We people have waited for 25 years, let us wait some more and lets see what fruit hangs after 5 more years.Hopefully tejas has given us enough experiences to build an advanced aircraft. We really hope so. Lets wait we all will know. Our country is full of talents( thinking of iits, iims), i don't understand which talented people (scientists or production managers) are working in HAL and ADA. There is a reservation too? They cant even speak proper english, who are designing this modern marvel ? or preferred candidates? or all money allocated are going to some deep hole on somebody's fat belly! Abandon this LCA advancement programme( such as lCA mark 2,) immediately.., don't hesitate to induct LCA in their current configuration, to fill the gaps in squadrons..But Focus on Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft...seriously...N..O..W...and astonish the world...For this country's sake...you still have the chance Mr. Defence Minister( and HAL and ADA and IAF and related guys) or it will again be late like LCA is.<br /><br /><br />-a citizen of Indian Democracy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-14009587577488370902011-01-11T19:44:22.493+05:302011-01-11T19:44:22.493+05:30cant understand why people say minister forcing st...cant understand why people say minister forcing stuff down IAFs throat...there is no profit for them by doing so...neither financial nor political..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-81529652332091763792011-01-11T19:42:20.586+05:302011-01-11T19:42:20.586+05:30i have to question the ACMs timing... a kid might ...i have to question the ACMs timing... a kid might be a fool..but his bday is not the place to proclaim it....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-54851673184653362672011-01-11T19:17:08.690+05:302011-01-11T19:17:08.690+05:30@ ArkAngel...
news reports would suggest your numb...@ ArkAngel...<br />news reports would suggest your numbers are widely overestimated...some reports say 12k Cr..some 14.5kCr...but nowhere close to what you have said<br />shiv..pls clarifyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-57364042136169762202011-01-11T19:10:43.071+05:302011-01-11T19:10:43.071+05:30@ people saying that pvt companies would do better...@ people saying that pvt companies would do better<br /><br />course they would..i mean in private companies every1 has two brains ...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-59632881490483669822011-01-11T19:09:45.378+05:302011-01-11T19:09:45.378+05:30@ shiv...since people are mentioning costs here......@ shiv...since people are mentioning costs here...please give some figures (ballpark atleast) of similar and advanced programmes<br /><br /><br />also it was on some site that the actual funding came much later than 1983..please clarifyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-52496932577039213632011-01-11T18:52:33.059+05:302011-01-11T18:52:33.059+05:30Hi Shiv,
You work for headline today and Aaj tak i...Hi Shiv,<br />You work for headline today and Aaj tak is the sister concern. Here is the link to news on Tejas LCA reported from this channel. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZhpvRVbYec. She is a laughing stock. AK 47 in LCA? Just watch it.<br /><br />It is unfortunate that reporters like these get away with nonsense reporting.<br /><br />Sincerely,<br />JB<br /><br />BTW Just read on BR forum by a person who watched this video:<br /><br />"Give 6 mins and 50 seconds of my life back."... I know what she would answer..... watch it backwards!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-84740860726565902322011-01-11T17:07:26.809+05:302011-01-11T17:07:26.809+05:30anon@12.44
mainu mat ghasit oye!warna nathuram god...anon@12.44<br />mainu mat ghasit oye!warna nathuram godse aka INDIAN TAXPAYER meri maar lega!but list ekdam jhakas he baap! bahahahahasanuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16882384302967496467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-9744572482129720882011-01-11T16:23:47.444+05:302011-01-11T16:23:47.444+05:30LCA Tejas in short = 27 yrs, 25,000 crore & on...LCA Tejas in short = 27 yrs, 25,000 crore & only 60% indigenous! <br />This doesnot include the costs for the Mark II version or naval LCA. <br />Neither does it include the costs of the Kaveri engine & indigenous radar.<br /><br />In the end its just one big pay check to DRDO. <br />BTW, Mark II will only enter service in 2016! <br />Ofcourse judging from comments here many folk dont mind the IAF fighting with a blunt knife as long as its "indigenous". <br /><br />Some people need to get a reality check ASAP.ArkAngelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-20255907706104957222011-01-11T12:44:42.711+05:302011-01-11T12:44:42.711+05:30@Jith
Sonu's teen bandar: Annu (Anthony), Man...@Jith<br /><br />Sonu's teen bandar: Annu (Anthony), Mannu (Manmohan) and Pannu (Pranab) who won't see anything, hear anything or say anything. Nice set of netas keeping the seat warm for Rahul baba.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-71283521472328490922011-01-11T12:40:31.622+05:302011-01-11T12:40:31.622+05:30@Pramod, when you see bullets and bombs flying out...@Pramod, when you see bullets and bombs flying out of your window, you being the chief of a unit that is solely created to counter terror, will sit on your desk twiddling your thumb "waiting for orders" from a semi literate, quasi/full criminal, tobacco chewing, lungi/dhoti/pyjama clad neta or babu in Nai Dilli?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-64653300455264848452011-01-11T10:37:28.471+05:302011-01-11T10:37:28.471+05:30Naik is one more of our customers, civilians bette...Naik is one more of our customers, civilians better deliver type..don't expect him and IAF johnnies to do partnership etc with the civiie guys. Potbelly is good at ordering not working together...compare to the Navy, its so depressing to see what idiots we have in the IAF and Army...they spend half the time importing stuff and spend the other half running to MOD/MOF for supplementary agreements because nothing works as promised and common taxpayer ends up paying more...and if you talk to these IAF guys off the record over a few drinks, they blame the civilians..<br />People like Naik never worked with others, it was all orders, orders, orders..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-45048040052369818182011-01-11T10:35:45.469+05:302011-01-11T10:35:45.469+05:30A pessimistic Air Chief indeed..
I am really happ...A pessimistic Air Chief indeed..<br /><br />I am really happy to see LCA inducted into IAF. Of course its a small step but certainly a great leap for aircraft development in our country which could grow in multiples in the years to come, thanks to the Tejas experience.<br /><br />WELL done scientists and also well done A.K Antony who has become the visionary and strongest supporter of indigenisation in all spheres of Indian defence.Jithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-31420669317813788792011-01-11T09:04:20.977+05:302011-01-11T09:04:20.977+05:30@ anon@11.41PM.. (@shiv sorry for being off topic....@ anon@11.41PM.. (@shiv sorry for being off topic.. but sm things need to be sorted out )<br /><br />MARCOS were not there coz they wr not requisitioned by the civil administration...They do not have to go in even if something happens next door.. that is the way things work out when forces are assisting the civil administration... (and you idiots ask for repealing of AFSPA in J&K) In our country security is not just the responsibility of the Forces .. It starts from the Political establishment... What task is given to the forces, they have been doing it in the best possible way...<br /><br />Ignorance is bliss.. and you are blissful..<br /><br />@HAL,DRDO,ADA,ADE and all engineers and scientists...AND THE TEST PILOTS... GR8 job done ... keep up and speed up... :)pramodnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-44684146179958483702011-01-11T08:16:58.612+05:302011-01-11T08:16:58.612+05:30Why this whine man..
This is a proud moment for I...Why this whine man..<br /><br />This is a proud moment for India and the defense scientists who have toiled their hearts out.. It doesnt hurt or cost you anything to say something nice about OUR LCA<br /><br />Go get a drink....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-19109919005676224912011-01-11T07:44:42.232+05:302011-01-11T07:44:42.232+05:30I hope we again get to see leaders like Cariappa a...I hope we again get to see leaders like Cariappa and Manekshaw. I used to think people in defence forces are clean but I have serious apprehensions after kapoor, viz, naval commodore singh and now naik (lower cases are intentional) I guess we had rotten politicians along with Babus and there was no doubt about it but it looks that corruption is even deeper in defence procurement....<br /><br />I believe we don't have to fight Pak or China as Migs are already doing their Job but then they will spend billion for upgrades..HypocritesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-25846555183496066262011-01-11T03:47:38.329+05:302011-01-11T03:47:38.329+05:30Vow, a sentence from IAF and we have "INDIAN...Vow, a sentence from IAF and we have "INDIAN TAXPAYERS" screaming for blood!<br /><br />For God Sake this is IOC. IOC does NOT include BVR testing. Isn't IAF Chief correct when he says it has yet to reach 4 gen status! Which country gets everything on a aircraft on IOC!<br /><br />Who will call F-22's as 5 gen if it was not able to fire a BVR? <br /><br />I dont feel sorry, because IAF Chief said the obvious, I pity the nation who has such useless listeners!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-88506002980849553892011-01-11T02:29:48.220+05:302011-01-11T02:29:48.220+05:30"Why the heck is this being widely heralded a..."Why the heck is this being widely heralded as India's first indigenous fighter jet when it clearly is the second (after the HF-24 Marut)?"<br /><br />Because Kurt Tank wasn't Indian.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-80520624121157357712011-01-11T02:02:47.769+05:302011-01-11T02:02:47.769+05:30@Anon1.01,agree with what you say on management an...@Anon1.01,agree with what you say on management and vision.But do not on the JF-17 bit.EW suites are external pods. The Paki-China aircraft will not be met by the LCA nor was it meant to be.The LCA was supposed to replace(as most forget)and not to be a 4th or 5th gen replacement.It will a useful learning tool and and will be a useful tool.The IAF even at present is far more capable than the Pakis with the JF-17s included.Forget the paki lies,remeber that the the IAF in all conflicts with the pakis have flown a far greater number of sorties than the Pakis and have always supported our troops and campaign more.The Pakis has mostly stuck to covering his a** over Pakistan airspace.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-67094190349350463622011-01-11T01:05:20.195+05:302011-01-11T01:05:20.195+05:30MiG-21++ is the best way to describe this fighter....MiG-21++ is the best way to describe this fighter.<br /><br />Stop criticizing the Marshall. He has only spoken the truth.<br /><br />And I believe that he definitely has more information than us on the issue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-62963460422352620742011-01-11T01:04:51.935+05:302011-01-11T01:04:51.935+05:30Why the heck is this being widely heralded as Indi...Why the heck is this being widely heralded as India's first indigenous fighter jet when it clearly is the second (after the HF-24 Marut)?<br /><br />And of course India is being reported to have once again joined the "select club of blah blah nations" when in fact we joined it in, er, 1961. (Our obsession with joining select clubs of nations is of course a separate topic altogether.)<br /><br />The ignorance is amazing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-61038300109887535782011-01-11T01:01:46.760+05:302011-01-11T01:01:46.760+05:30Ugly truth time: the JF-17/FC-1 is better than the...Ugly truth time: the JF-17/FC-1 is better than the LCA.<br /><br />You all laughed at the JF-17 but it proved a better aircraft. It has better range and agility. It has a built in EW suite and carries a better load. It's fully operational with BVR missiles. By the time the LCA is fully operational, it will be even more obsolete than it is now.<br /><br />The best thing I can say about the LCA is that it might be a good learning tool to teach HAL how to make planes like the Chinese learnt from their J-10. Now they have jumped to the J-20. I think India can do even better with her AMCA.<br /><br />India needs to wean herself away from Russian arms. They are outdated and inferior to Western weapons. India has nothing to learn from these failures and should aim to surpass American weapons instead. Our scientists are too cautious and lazy. They need to be more ambitious and set higher goals instead of being satisfied with mediocrity. You can buy the F-35 to fill our "low" requirement but the AMCA MUST BE SUPERIOR TO THE F-22!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-76480770835661759912011-01-10T23:59:00.382+05:302011-01-10T23:59:00.382+05:30Hi Shiv,
"Congratulation You all DRDO,HAL,AD...Hi Shiv,<br /><br />"Congratulation You all DRDO,HAL,ADA and Test Pilots" <br />It's Great to see Finaly Tejas's 'IOC',I'm very happy doing lungi dance.But http://www.lca-tejas.org/ website is worst then any fighter plane website.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-45409495462502317072011-01-10T23:44:42.535+05:302011-01-10T23:44:42.535+05:30@anon 6:27, article says tejas mk2 will 'NOT O...@anon 6:27, article says tejas mk2 will 'NOT ONLY' be powered by GE F414. So that means it will be powered by GE F414 after all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-56705076909437865652011-01-10T23:41:03.800+05:302011-01-10T23:41:03.800+05:30Tejas seems to be IAF version of Arjun saga (Army ...Tejas seems to be IAF version of Arjun saga (Army sabotaging an indigenous product in order to safeguard their stream of kickbacks! LOL!). An IAF chief who is more interested in making a group captain out of a cricketer (Sachin Tendulkar) makes us question his loyalty and competence. Did he get this post coz the President (who is accused of murder) is also from same state? It's a well known fact that these massive defense imports generate 100s of million $s kickbacks for our baboo, netas and also the top brass (recent slew of scams involving officers of the highest rank). His feigning disdain for indigenous product is to scuttle the project or reduce the numbers as larger numbers of Tejas leaves no room for kickback generating expensive imports.<br />How safe are we with such kind of Army, Navy and Air force? Their incompetence is brought out in all terror attacks. MARCOS, which is based in Mumbai, was no where to be seen for hours after the terrorist striked the Taj (situated next to Naval HQO).<br />AUR LOOTO DESH KO "SECURITY" KE BAHANA ME.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com