tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post6566613127341404362..comments2023-10-11T17:09:54.975+05:30Comments on LIVEFIST: FIRST ON LIVEFIST: India Chooses The RafaleShiv Aroorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03510476258643893433noreply@blogger.comBlogger91125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-21458004229946742292012-02-16T23:22:10.465+05:302012-02-16T23:22:10.465+05:30It was always the best looking one in the competit...It was always the best looking one in the competition man it cannot be any fairer decision than thisAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-89890402658817782452012-02-16T23:22:10.066+05:302012-02-16T23:22:10.066+05:30It was always the best looking one in the competit...It was always the best looking one in the competition man it cannot be any fairer decision than thisAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-72341503677760968062012-02-07T12:16:55.159+05:302012-02-07T12:16:55.159+05:30Man, i think we should start a new joint-venture w...Man, i think we should start a new joint-venture with France to co-develop another stealth fighter (for France, of course), this will ensure that no enemies of India get any equipment from France. It will also help India's closest European ally (France) to secure air-dominance over Europe. It'll be good to see India's allies ruling the skies in every corner of the world.<br /><br /><br />One question - does anyone know we'll be getting all source codes of Rafale with the ToT???Mr. Parthunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-53105221449264494652012-02-05T21:49:21.939+05:302012-02-05T21:49:21.939+05:30Future IAF - 220-280 Tejas LCA, and ~200 Rafale, 3...Future IAF - 220-280 Tejas LCA, and ~200 Rafale, 300 or so Su-30 MKI, 300-350 PAKFA/FGFA, ~400 AMCA and speculation about a few F-35 JSF purchase...hmmm...pretty outstanding indeed.<br /><br />With full ToT (including source codes) from Dassault, hope to soon see a Rafale-ish LCA Mk.2B!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-12776095821759245602012-02-04T13:21:22.750+05:302012-02-04T13:21:22.750+05:30LiveFist did a survey a few months ago asking whic...LiveFist did a survey a few months ago asking which fighter airplane the readers preferred. If I recall correctly, the majority of respondents wanted the Eurofighter!<br /><br />At that time, the Rafale guys were in the minority. But, the purpose of my message is to point out that if the sample of readers here represent those interested in defense in the nation, then the entire nation was out of sync with the government and ground realities of decision making.<br /><br />Therefore, I must further add that the nation is really out of touch with the ground realities of anything and everything concerning India. That is why India is failing on a daily basis in its defense, environment, traffic management, water management, corruption, morality ... and hundreds of other things.<br /><br />Best of luck, India, you need it!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-20855072858859642592012-02-02T12:58:13.922+05:302012-02-02T12:58:13.922+05:30HAL seems to bo proactive for commencing Rafale pr...HAL seems to bo proactive for commencing Rafale production line ... good good :)<br /><br />.<br /><br />http://ibnlive.in.com/news/hal-lands-a-fortune-as-rafale-arrives/226334-60-119.htmlSomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-69942838738565506562012-02-02T03:03:10.594+05:302012-02-02T03:03:10.594+05:30FEEL SORRY FOR THE INDIAN people. We all know how ...FEEL SORRY FOR THE INDIAN people. We all know how things work there....French government desperate for votes, bribed senior Indian officials resulting in 'low' price. If the Rafale so good why has not a single other country in then world has purchased even one for assessment in spite of lower price!!!!!!! <br />If it smells dirty ....looks dirty ....likelihood is, the deal is dirty! <br />Is it true UK gives $700m in aid to India - straight into the pockets of officials, none to the poor- ha ha haPoor Indiansnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-38729757269883621492012-02-01T11:02:55.601+05:302012-02-01T11:02:55.601+05:30Hi Shiv,
Congratulations to the final of MMRCA. I...Hi Shiv,<br /><br />Congratulations to the final of MMRCA. If I got it wright the MoD only appointed the lowest bidder. There is not any information about the cost per plane...<br /><br />I hope the making of the decision by India will be the pull we (in Brazil) are expecting to our government to join France and India operating the Rafale and get finished our DAMM FX-2 competition...<br />A novel as long as our MMRCA...<br /><br />The NEXT question is:<br />Will India use the Rafale also on their Aircraft Carriers ???Gilberto Rezende-Rio Grande/RShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03776008218753900918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-33390371727582265782012-02-01T10:29:28.171+05:302012-02-01T10:29:28.171+05:30Sounds the best choice for IAF...
Hoping to see it...Sounds the best choice for IAF...<br />Hoping to see it soon in IAF coloursJithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-57639634990413054832012-02-01T09:54:08.047+05:302012-02-01T09:54:08.047+05:30such a waste of time, IAF selected around 126 mira...such a waste of time, IAF selected around 126 mirage 2000s in 2003-04, new government cancelled the order & wanted an open tender around 8 to 9 years of long process with IAF superiority in the region fast diminishing, IAF selects 126 rafale (similar to mirage 2000).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-65831607752847648092012-02-01T09:45:33.739+05:302012-02-01T09:45:33.739+05:30Mixed bag with either Eurocanard.
This day and age...Mixed bag with either Eurocanard.<br />This day and age Aerodynamics are less relevant compared to Avionics. No one beats the Americans on Avionics. Considering the F-16's are a PAF mainstay, the F/A18 would have been a great choice with appropriate Avionics and weapons package.<br /><br />But if India gets full ToT, the beauty of this decision is it is ITAR-free. And quite possibly India builds its own jets in a few years.<br /><br />Still, I am with Ashley Tellis on this one. I do question the selection process that ignored cost in the first downselect.<br /><br />Nevertheless, it does fill a void for the IAF.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-46787985137251694332012-02-01T09:04:42.962+05:302012-02-01T09:04:42.962+05:30Good first step.
Next, co-dev & co-prod.
- Ma...Good first step.<br />Next, co-dev & co-prod.<br /><br />- ManneMannenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-29104106275863931502012-02-01T09:01:23.878+05:302012-02-01T09:01:23.878+05:30Sorry bro, u were not the first to report, yesterd...Sorry bro, u were not the first to report, yesterday, Ajai Shukla pulled off..........Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-30007734276139600242012-02-01T08:52:25.462+05:302012-02-01T08:52:25.462+05:30Great News! EF and Rafale are both capable fighter...Great News! EF and Rafale are both capable fighters. But I guess, we can get more leverage from Dassault and deeper ToT! Good Decision after all!Rahul Devnathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04172459193314726949noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-29334659874589930342012-02-01T07:07:18.486+05:302012-02-01T07:07:18.486+05:30Shiv..was tat Air-women was beautiful...???Shiv..was tat Air-women was beautiful...???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-84200125019763461532012-02-01T05:24:26.777+05:302012-02-01T05:24:26.777+05:30Now the wait for the Win Chadhas to be exposedNow the wait for the Win Chadhas to be exposedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-1216907979248124072012-02-01T01:33:30.342+05:302012-02-01T01:33:30.342+05:30I always thought Rafale was a slimmer and more eff...I always thought Rafale was a slimmer and more efficient aircraft compared to Eurofighter, which is heavier and bulkier. So, I am happy that India selected the Rafale.<br /><br />Now, all that I want is 126 more of these aircraft over and above the 126 we purchase. India needs more, and India can afford more.<br /><br />But, on the other hand, Indians really suck in their personality!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-86844351477031866052012-02-01T01:27:52.523+05:302012-02-01T01:27:52.523+05:30I'm satisfied that the IAF and Indian govt sel...I'm satisfied that the IAF and Indian govt selected Rafale over the Eurofighter. The Rafale was a much better cost-effective decision from all perspectives, including firepower and battle performance. But in the end, India has to manufacture its own fighter aircraft.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-49337663844312220042012-02-01T00:01:11.206+05:302012-02-01T00:01:11.206+05:30shiv what's your take on this decision, please...shiv what's your take on this decision, please write an article about this decision as rafale had lost many international orders, then why india selected it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-57040858748929435082012-01-31T23:44:01.371+05:302012-01-31T23:44:01.371+05:30It's about time indeed!
And that large sale ...It's about time indeed! <br /><br />And that large sale of more than 120 Rafales to India will surely help other pending sales in Brazil and in the United Arab Emirates, namely.<br /><br />I'm sure the recent libyan campaign, where Rafales made the first airstrikes, helped show the performances of this aircraft.<br /><br />In the meantime, here in Canada we're still stuck with this controversial govt decision to purchase more than sixty overpriced, unproven and already flaw-ridden F-35's to replace our old F/A-18 Hornets (A-D), since our current Conservative federal government acts as a mere satellite of Washington.Benoitnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-91524122950692569302012-01-31T23:05:06.055+05:302012-01-31T23:05:06.055+05:30One more plane for our pilots to crash...what a wa...One more plane for our pilots to crash...what a waste of moneyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-11215035934126068762012-01-31T22:57:32.129+05:302012-01-31T22:57:32.129+05:30Yeah right, the best aircraft in the world which n...Yeah right, the best aircraft in the world which no country has ever bought.<br /><br />India already has sukoi so why go for another similar outdated fighter which no one wants to buy, everyone know typhoon is better than this shit rafale but no india ppl think otherwise (kickback)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-35227936957488969732012-01-31T22:19:35.664+05:302012-01-31T22:19:35.664+05:30Fortunately the best deal has been reached, perhap...Fortunately the best deal has been reached, perhaps due to the magic of the Mirage.Mr. Ranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-56034825167040990062012-01-31T21:37:16.343+05:302012-01-31T21:37:16.343+05:30Congrats Dassualt. All I would say is that I never...Congrats Dassualt. All I would say is that I never thought that the MoD and the IAF had it in them to select the most obvious choice.<br /><br />While each of the aircraft had their plus and minuses the Rafale is good choice purely from a maintenance and training perspective. The IAF crews and pilots have worked with Dassault and only have good things to say about their experience with the Mirage 2000. Selecting a marginally better but different aircraft like the Typhoon or the SH would have resulted in a huge maintenance and operational training effort which is very optimized now.<br /><br />I only hope that the Government follows this with two more common sense actions<br /><br />1. Allow Dassault to work with private operators on offsets<br /><br />2. Do not allow "juggad" on the aircraft during its lifetime. <br /><br />3. Ensure that we pick the best in EW suites so that it truly offers a SEAD and A2G capability.samnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-54914557254662545552012-01-31T21:33:43.860+05:302012-01-31T21:33:43.860+05:30I am happy that GoI has finally made the choice. I...I am happy that GoI has finally made the choice. I was really frustrated by the indecision and countless deaths caused because of mechanical issues on MiG-21. Though, I would liked the tender to go to Eurofighter, Rafale is not bad choice either if France allows significant ToT and in future if France abandons Rafale project(high possibility), Thales may be allowed to move to India.<br /><br />Most of all, I am really surprised that Indian babus can make a decision.Rajeevnoreply@blogger.com