tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post8895949053886790845..comments2023-10-11T17:09:54.975+05:30Comments on LIVEFIST: Farewell to Arjun?Shiv Aroorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03510476258643893433noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-89989495612465728512008-08-13T22:03:00.000+05:302008-08-13T22:03:00.000+05:30Mukesh,Thanks for your work. I often see that ofte...Mukesh,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for your work. I often see that often our countrymen in hindi/ regional newspapers are more nationalistic and accurate than our leading english newspapers. At least dont be like our bikau english media who take pleasure in insulting/ running down DRDO and other Govt institutions all the time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-41944882181424172752008-08-13T14:19:00.000+05:302008-08-13T14:19:00.000+05:30To anon.I have done this story on sunday which was...To anon.<BR/><BR/>I have done this story on sunday which was carried by many Hindi Newspapers. But you know who knows about the story unless it appears in some "leading" english daily.साथी https://www.blogger.com/profile/09392194267777280870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-87496357280525439352008-08-13T01:27:00.000+05:302008-08-13T01:27:00.000+05:30Regarding this:>The Marut story is being repeat...Regarding this:<BR/><BR/>>The Marut story is being repeated in the Arjun, <BR/>>and the LCA, and you fools are dreaming of <BR/>>building a spaceship. You fools ain't going to <BR/>>build anything, because you have no faith in <BR/>>yourselves.<BR/><BR/>I meant that if the nation lets itself be swayed, and I am not swayed, then the nation has let itself down.<BR/><BR/>My take on this is that, even if the DRDO products are not the best in the world, India should plan on fighting and being successful with these weapon systems, (perhaps by mass producing them, so we have the advantage of numbers). I know it's an unhappy road, but so many other nations have had to come up this way.<BR/><BR/>If the Arjun MBT was not good enough, then why was the army sitting on it's backside all these years and saying nothing? The Army should understand that it's an equal stakeholder in the development of Arjun. If they don't take their stakeholding seriously, the one way to make them take it seriously from now on is to make them fight with the end product. They need to realise that they can't be washing their hands off and walking away.<BR/><BR/>In India, we can't have a failed system where one fragment gets to blame another and walk away. The failure of one fragment is a failure of the whole, everyone's an equal stakeholder in building the Indian nation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-23692294820569093542008-08-12T18:11:00.000+05:302008-08-12T18:11:00.000+05:30Who is arjun's father? or is he a bastard child, l...Who is arjun's father? or is he a bastard child, like most here!!! And who is Abhimanyu?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-83584764491726874252008-08-12T17:17:00.000+05:302008-08-12T17:17:00.000+05:30who is arjuns mother???who is arjuns mother???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-56358354591357912492008-08-12T17:01:00.000+05:302008-08-12T17:01:00.000+05:30Mukesh, if you have the above info, then why dont ...Mukesh, if you have the above info, then why dont you do a story?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-49235614151481671222008-08-12T13:07:00.000+05:302008-08-12T13:07:00.000+05:30Hi Shiv what heard about ill fated Arjun is that a...Hi Shiv <BR/>what heard about ill fated Arjun is that all the intention of indian army to kill this "Father of Abhimanyu" are going to be dashed as it has been decided on political level that this projict shall continue. RM has put his foot down and finaly Indian army has agreed to conduct the trials of Arjun tank with the much favoured tank of Army that is T 90. this trial according to sources will be held in december. In the meanwhile, intentions of Mod about continueing Arjun project shall be made public though some parliamentary instruments.साथी https://www.blogger.com/profile/09392194267777280870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-82613618112355578922008-08-12T11:39:00.000+05:302008-08-12T11:39:00.000+05:30Well dreams should materialise. There is a differe...Well dreams should materialise. There is a difference in dreams and hallucinations, I see no use in being psycho about something.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-2918615129857796302008-08-12T09:15:00.000+05:302008-08-12T09:15:00.000+05:30Well with that attitude you will stagnate. Dreamin...Well with that attitude you will stagnate. Dreaming and failing is much better than not dreaming at all..<BR/><BR/>Your use of "we" in the first statement and "you" in the last statement is contradic(k)tory, pleae explain..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-73680892444013728372008-08-12T04:52:00.000+05:302008-08-12T04:52:00.000+05:30India is a nation of mice. We dream big, but don't...India is a nation of mice. We dream big, but don't have the courage and perseverance to learn from failure. Lead by the shortsighted Army of course.<BR/><BR/>The Marut story is being repeated in the Arjun, and the LCA, and you fools are dreaming of building a spaceship. You fools ain't going to build anything, because you have no faith in yourselves.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-21483306577142562132008-08-12T00:25:00.000+05:302008-08-12T00:25:00.000+05:30Well, think of the devil and there it is..http://w...Well, think of the devil and there it is..<BR/><BR/>http://www.newindpress.com/NewsItems.asp?ID=IE820080808184820Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-74766996902660460712008-08-12T00:16:00.000+05:302008-08-12T00:16:00.000+05:30Indian defense arena is arguably the most active o...Indian defense arena is arguably the most active one in the world now - generating a lot of news. But even then, you cannot ask for a new post every day :)<BR/><BR/>Well if you somthing to chew on, the Navy's deal for P8 Poseidon crafts is closing fast. ALH being exported to Turkey.<BR/><BR/>Shiv, something on Indian UAV/UCAV roadmap, HSTDV testing would be greatly appreciated. India jumped 3rd gen fighters and moved from Marut to Tejas . Now, we should jump 5th gen directly to UCAVs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-1508296652511432492008-08-11T23:20:00.000+05:302008-08-11T23:20:00.000+05:30Yawn !!!...no new post...pl put up something, othe...Yawn !!!...no new post...pl put up something, otherwise people will go madAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-10206170562230944742008-08-11T09:59:00.000+05:302008-08-11T09:59:00.000+05:30why is army so bitter about delays..sh*t happens.....why is army so bitter about delays..sh*t happens..if we r gonna invent(re-invent..in case of tot denial) something..its gonna take x amount of time. When arjun project started DRDO didnt know how to build even a jeep..<BR/>But now ..Arjun is in good shape irrespective of the delays..why army is so emotional..ruski tanks have huge problems too..but no complaints in that area..that is double standards..<BR/>hope govt intervenes and stop army from stupid joint venture with ruskis for futuristic tank..<BR/>ruskis will make us pay for R&D and later sell the tank to us..like BRAHMOS..not not even TOT will be there..<BR/>Lets learn our lessons..don't trust on ruskis who can't even keep any promises.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-5788270404415411242008-08-11T04:18:00.000+05:302008-08-11T04:18:00.000+05:30Next one on the chopping block is LCA?? What?Next one on the chopping block is LCA?? What?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-71463890072246204232008-08-10T21:50:00.000+05:302008-08-10T21:50:00.000+05:30nice article, but sad to hear about the arjun. is ...nice article, but sad to hear about the arjun. is there no hope of reviving it? whyis the army so adamant?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-83204367106105158022008-08-10T21:43:00.000+05:302008-08-10T21:43:00.000+05:30You are after Arjun big time , Shiv...leave it and...You are after Arjun big time , Shiv...leave it and move on in life. As it is you believe in moving on quite often and quite fast in life. <BR/><BR/>Leave the past, and look ahead. Arjun has been chewed, written, raped, discussed, over a 1000 times already. So, show some maturity and look for other avenues to show your prowess.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6050542.post-12119871765713342072008-08-10T20:53:00.000+05:302008-08-10T20:53:00.000+05:30Good dialog like structure of article :)In some wa...Good dialog like structure of article :)<BR/><BR/>In some way, I think DRDO deserves it. If someone keeps giving promise after promise, and don't keep it, it IS difficult for the IA to trust them = even if they start fulfilling them.<BR/><BR/>But that said, all this money spent on Arjun would have gone down the drain, which is unacceptable. Only thing possible now is to accelerate this upgrade program - keep three month deadlines and show rapid and considerable progress. Put in as many technicians,engineers required.<BR/><BR/>Within a year or two the tank should be so good, it should win back the lost confidence. I know that this is Highly impossible - but DRDO has to convince its customer, government and the taxpayers..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com